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Leia's memories of her mother . . .

Posted by tom | May 20, 2005

Leia's memories of her mother from Episode VI are difficult to rationalize w/Padme's death in childbirth leads my list of things not matching up. A few others include Obi-Wan's lack of connection w/the droids in Episode IV, the tie-in w/connecting to one's master in the spirit world is good for Obi-Wan the hermit but nothing in the originals infers such a relationship, and wouldn't you think Chewbacca's relationship w/Yoda would have come out in Episode IV-VI? I apologize for the rant.

Now that I have that off my chest. I can turn my attention to thinking about the 'magical' nature of the Force manipulated toward ends that are not absolute and should not be tied to emotion. I have to say that we find absolutes in Anakin's ruthless elimination of young Jedi trainees (contrary to Yoda's counsel to Anakin, the Sith bring death in an unnatural way or at least unnatural timing), Luke and Anakin's elimination of the Sith in Episode VI, and the comments on democracy . . . "So this is how liberty ends—to thunderous applause."

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    Let's not forget that Yoda and Chewbacca sound like good, close friends, and yet there is no recognition whatsoever in episode IV when chewie meets a jedi master.

    That was the high point of the film, Tom. "So this is how liberty ends--" A brilliant commentary.

    Posted by Don Probst, May 21 2005, 15:31

    Much of what Obi-wan says in his early conversations with Luke seems dodgy when compared to the actual events of the Prequels ("When I first met your father, he was a nine-year-old podracing champion" would have been more accurate). Since his "point of view" on Anakin and Vader was deliberately skewed, perhaps everything he says and does is part of his act. This probably includes not mentioning his communication with Qui-gon; he had enough trouble persuading people he wasn't crazy without bringing up the fact that he talks to dead people.

    Leia's connection with her mother does seem unlikely. Then again, it was never clear to me why Luke thought Leia would remember their mother in the first place. Maybe another revision will make this issue clearer. *grin*

    On the happier subject of good elements of the movie, I loved the horizontal profile shot of Vader as his helmet was sealed for the first time.

    Posted by Andy, May 22 2005, 14:36

    Hi,
    I was just speculating on this very thing and came to some satisfactory conclusions, when luke asks his sister about her mother, Leia may be recalling both her Guardian, The Queen Organa of Alderran (who was also lonely), or she could be getting a 'sense' of her real mother from her experience in the womb.
    As for the lack of recognition of the droids by Obi Wan, The prequel novelization briefly explores Obi Wans puzzlement on Anakin's devotion "to these droids!" To Obi wan the droids are just machines and have no real sense, so it would make sense not recognizing an R2 unit and a protocol droid from some 19 years previous.
    Just my two sense.
    Best
    Thomas.

    Posted by Thomas Carrieri, Dec 12 2009, 14:51

    Thomas,

    Thank-you for sharing your thoughts. ... It's encouraging to come across others who take time to reflect upon these concerns w/me ;-) More to troll around in http://groshlink.net/category/speculative_literaturearts

    Peace,

    Tom

    Posted by Thomas B. Grosh IV, Dec 13 2009, 12:40
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